Sapphi an excellent piece, you totally captured the truth of Seymour. And why I feel so utterly repulsed by the guy. How on earth do we counter this vile man and his manipulation of the wider community who are seduced by the dollar over humanity.
I wish I knew how to counter him. I can only assume adherence to the truth is important, that rebutting him is important. But they’ve primed so many of the diehard userbase to see regular moderation and verification of veracity as censorship, meanwhile his soundbites are being played nightly on the news to sink into people’s brains largely unrebutted.
I want to start an anti-Seymour league where the only purpose is to loudly and vocally dislike Seymour. MountainTui admitting that before they got into politics, they thought he seemed like a nice genuine guy made me realise how much he hides behind his mild reasonable demeanour, and there’s very little challenge to that. I don’t know if people are still being given that impression *now* when he’s inspiring protests up and down the motu but idk, I don’t think it would hurt if the average regular person got the sense that he is deeply disliked by many, many people.
Anyone else wanna sign up? We can make t-shirts.
Actually quite seriously, if anyone has an anti-Seymour tshirt, link me, I’ll buy it.
A: What does this mean? "to see regular moderation and verification of veracity as censorship,"
B: Is "unrebutting" the same as not bothering because the arguments are too strong to find fault with? That's what lawyers do, if rebutting may well damage their case.
Firstly, it's not "him" you counter, it's the 300odd thousand who voted for him (not me.)
Secondly, you counter him with better arguments but they're hard to locate within any basis of fairness under the principles of democratic values and human rights , aren't they. Tea party Maori tried and made fools of themselves
I would be relieved to see an anti-Seymour league - as you say his sound bites are played daily and yet the voices against him while truthful and substantive are irregular. Count me in on the t-shirts, finally a Christmas present I would be delighted to give!
Be gone with your disinfenuous Marxist slurs. Rebutting fascism is not about Marxism. Rebutting/calling out/identifying fascism is the work of any sane human being. Go be a fascist sonewhere else Mobey
Very long piece relative to one line take downs here. Kudos. There is no one coming to save society from these right wing termites. No one can save the US, NZ will possibly or probably follow the US. How can we manage the transition from democracy and human rights in the best way to preserve democratic ideals and the rights of people in the future? Sigh my brain hurts. David Seymour, yes agree with you. But he is still going to be DPM in a few months. That’s when it will get real here.
Yeah that’s right. The right wing are NEVER hypocritical lying sadists. Enjoy your care providers, they won’t be funded much longer. You better stay well and rich.
I get that the dialogue feels like a scummy mud fight at times. Okay, most of the time. I do get to feel disheartened and want to just pull back away.
But at the end of the day we are all here together and the trick is how can we make it work? I’m from the right myself, but I can sure identify with harsh feelings. (My wife thinks Seymour is a weasely little ferret.)
Anyway, buggered if I know sport, but I get that the future of our community and kids matters to you. And of the creative arts.
Sapphi an excellent piece, you totally captured the truth of Seymour. And why I feel so utterly repulsed by the guy. How on earth do we counter this vile man and his manipulation of the wider community who are seduced by the dollar over humanity.
I wish I knew how to counter him. I can only assume adherence to the truth is important, that rebutting him is important. But they’ve primed so many of the diehard userbase to see regular moderation and verification of veracity as censorship, meanwhile his soundbites are being played nightly on the news to sink into people’s brains largely unrebutted.
I want to start an anti-Seymour league where the only purpose is to loudly and vocally dislike Seymour. MountainTui admitting that before they got into politics, they thought he seemed like a nice genuine guy made me realise how much he hides behind his mild reasonable demeanour, and there’s very little challenge to that. I don’t know if people are still being given that impression *now* when he’s inspiring protests up and down the motu but idk, I don’t think it would hurt if the average regular person got the sense that he is deeply disliked by many, many people.
Anyone else wanna sign up? We can make t-shirts.
Actually quite seriously, if anyone has an anti-Seymour tshirt, link me, I’ll buy it.
Ditto. BHN were tossing ideas around in a similar vein and have now set up for suitable merch. Maybe they could help.
The ditto was to Sapphi
A: What does this mean? "to see regular moderation and verification of veracity as censorship,"
B: Is "unrebutting" the same as not bothering because the arguments are too strong to find fault with? That's what lawyers do, if rebutting may well damage their case.
Firstly, it's not "him" you counter, it's the 300odd thousand who voted for him (not me.)
Secondly, you counter him with better arguments but they're hard to locate within any basis of fairness under the principles of democratic values and human rights , aren't they. Tea party Maori tried and made fools of themselves
I would be relieved to see an anti-Seymour league - as you say his sound bites are played daily and yet the voices against him while truthful and substantive are irregular. Count me in on the t-shirts, finally a Christmas present I would be delighted to give!
Who plays the soundbites? Tames employers? Try The Platform and learn a little. Laws is excellent. So is Hide on Reality Radio.
Absolutely agreed. Hateful disingenuous dangerous little man.
It's not an excellent piece. It's rambling obsequiousness to a fashionable Marxist trope.
Be gone with your disinfenuous Marxist slurs. Rebutting fascism is not about Marxism. Rebutting/calling out/identifying fascism is the work of any sane human being. Go be a fascist sonewhere else Mobey
He reminds me of a juvenile Smurf strutting around, with that self conscious smirk plastered on his face.
😂
Have you seen his partner? She's so pretty 😍.
Very long piece relative to one line take downs here. Kudos. There is no one coming to save society from these right wing termites. No one can save the US, NZ will possibly or probably follow the US. How can we manage the transition from democracy and human rights in the best way to preserve democratic ideals and the rights of people in the future? Sigh my brain hurts. David Seymour, yes agree with you. But he is still going to be DPM in a few months. That’s when it will get real here.
Good God, we're rooted!
I write short from exhaustion after reading long winded fluff.
Love a high quality right-wing termite. They're just so busy chewing away at the foundations of socialist hypocrisy
Yeah that’s right. The right wing are NEVER hypocritical lying sadists. Enjoy your care providers, they won’t be funded much longer. You better stay well and rich.
A very long piece you say. I put it through AI and reduced it by two thirds with no change to meaning.
Hi Sapphi
I get that the dialogue feels like a scummy mud fight at times. Okay, most of the time. I do get to feel disheartened and want to just pull back away.
But at the end of the day we are all here together and the trick is how can we make it work? I’m from the right myself, but I can sure identify with harsh feelings. (My wife thinks Seymour is a weasely little ferret.)
Anyway, buggered if I know sport, but I get that the future of our community and kids matters to you. And of the creative arts.
Best wishes.
I read this again. It really is a load of misguided tosh!
Thanks 🙏
You're welcome.
A caveat, such as…” in my opinion “ should be added to your comment. Most of us don't feel the same the same as you, obviously …
he ( seymore) is less popular now than when he arm twisted this useless govt to get his vile policies on the table!
Pin a tail on it and call it a weasel.